A more natural cesarean delivery

As I approach my second cesarean delivery I've been thinking about what tweaks can be made to soften the surgical experience.

Ideas for the Best Cesarean Delivery
Prepared by Penny Simkin, author of The Birth Partner, recommended to me by a doula friend.


Here are some more links about "natural cesarean" deliveries:

The natural caesarean: a woman-centred technique

The new "natural" Caesarean

The main ideas about this type of modification of the delivery experience have come from Great Britain.


So far I've talked to my OB about having my sister doula my surgery again, abstaining from the antibiotic eye gel and about the possibility of them putting the baby on my chest right after delivery.

About my c-section delivery after myomectomy

Friday morning I woke up early, as was typical for my pregnancy, though I couldn't have a snack as I would normally do -- no food after 1:30 AM. I took a shower at 6AM and got myself, my mother and partner ready to head out to the hospital by 7:30 but we were still a little late.

I waddled into the hospital entry and we figured out which elevator to take up to obstetrics where my sister was patiently waiting for us (actually she had texted me on the way to the hospital and I jokingly replied that I had changed my mind about the delivery).

They got us into a room right away, which was used for both pre-op prep and recovery. I changed into a hospital gown with nothing else on though I did leave my socks on for a while as my feet were cold. The nurse hooked me up to a monitor on my belly and the baby started kicking right away -- he hated having things resting on the belly such as books when I was reading in bed at night. They were checking his heartrate and checking me for any contractions. I didn't think I was having any contractions, braxton-hicks or otherwise and this was confirmed by the nurse (I was proud to know my body so well). They got my IV started, hooked me up to some IV fluids to keep me hydrated and then the nurse gave my pubic area a shave with an electric razor.

I explained that my sister would be attending as a doula and they were cool with that. My partner and sister both changed into surgical garb with booties, hats and masks. My sister had brought some lavendar with her to help calm me during the procedure -- a French lavendar sachet smelled awesome. My doctor came in to check in with us, and soon it was time to get into the OR. I rubbed my baby's knees and feet inside of me for one last time.

They wheeled me down the hall just a few doors and into the cold operating room which was full of people who would be assisting with the delivery. There was my OB, another OB, the surgical nurse who helped prep me, another nurse, two anaesthesiologists, my partner and my sister -- and possibly more. The first thing was getting the spinal set up which wasn't painful at all as they had one of those automatic blood pressure cuffs squeezing the life out of my left arm -- I didn't feel anything in my back. Next they lay me out on the operating table and pulled a drape up close to my face -- closer than I thought it would be. We then waited for the spinal to take affect, first a warm feeling and then they kept checking to see if I was getting numb where they would be cutting me open. Finally I was numb enough and they quickly got into action.

The anaethesiologist said to let him know if I felt nauseous and quite soon after I was hit with a wave of nausea. I barely had to say a word before he put in some medication to help control it and it passed quickly. I was feeling stressed and overwelmed though as I could feel pressure of them working on my belly and the curtain was so close to my chin and the spinal does make your breathing feel a little weird. I had my partner rub my shoulders and my sister brought the lavender close to my nose and that helped to keep me together. It was intense being awake during the procedure and they don't give you any sedatives or anything as they don't want to affect the baby, just the spinal which removes the pain sensations but not the touch sensations.

The time came for them to pull out the baby from me and one doctor was pressing (more like heaving) high on my belly while they yanked him out with a suction cap. Oh boy that was a crazy feeling.

Then there he was. A wet, vernix coated crying baby boy. He was a big healthy baby I could see as they whisked him across the room, with long arms and big hands. I got misty at seeing this little being finally here -- and with me in such a state. My partner was recruited to help trim down the umbilical cord and they wiped him off some and did what not and all I could do was look over at him in wonderment. The doctors continued working on me but having the baby to focus on helped to distract me from the pushing and pulling sensations.

Finally they brought the baby over to me (really it was only a few minutes after he was pulled out) and as I started talking to him little Jonah started cooing and making all sorts of noises to me. There was no doubt about it, he knew I was his mama -- what a precious memory that is for me. I was able to touch his soft cheek and give him a kiss and then they had to tend to him some more mostly stabilizing his body temperature I think.

The whole affair lasted about 40-50 minutes total and after that we were wheeled back in to recovery where they got me set up with the PCA pump. A nurse helped to get the baby to latch on and showed my partner what to do. I was totally out of it with the narcotics. My partner, sister and mother got to hold the baby lots at this point while we tried to stay ahead of the pain. I loved how they would try to give me directions and things while I could hardly keep my eyes open.

They moved us into our private suite and over the evening hours they removed my catheter (inserted after the spinal took affect), had me go to the toilet, had me drink cool water, took my and the baby's temp religiously to make sure we were both stable, and switched me onto percocet and ibuprofen. I was able to nurse Jonah with my partner's help and he was wetting diapers, and soon started passing meconium.

I fell asleep with Jonah layed across my chest at one point and when I woke up and saw his little face I just about melted; he was so tiny and perfect. My partner stayed with us in the room and slept a few stretches with the baby next to him. I also shifted to one side of the hospital bed and he lay next to me with Jonah which was super nice as well. It was just a really nice nesting experience and it was like the rest of the world didn't exist for those couple of days.

He was very tied into my voice in the first few days post delivery and would seek me out and start to root if he heard my voice. He's more confident about my presence now so he isn't quite as anxious to seek me out and knows I will come if he needs me.

We decided to check out of the hospital as soon as possible on Sunday as the nurses kept pushing percocet, stool softeners, gas-x and ibuprofen on me. I didn't have that much pain after my myomectomy and also since I had been through that experience my body wasn't as shocked about the pain and I found it manageable. The nurses couldn't seem to understand that even though I kept telling them I was doing okay. On a scale of 1 to 10 my pain never got to be more than a 4 -- unless I was moving around a lot and most of the time it was barely a .5. I also hated that the percocet would make me feel all loopy and I couldn't keep my eyes open. I took ibuprofen for the next five days and after that I didn't need anything.

I found one of the most interesting things about my recovery from the c-section is that compared to how tired and big I felt in late pregnancy my body felt a lot better post delivery. The operation itself also was less invasive than excising the large fibroid and even my OB confirmed that nature wants to make the mother heal quickly to help tend for her baby.

My incision actually looks better than after the myo. The skin lines up better and that extra pad of fat above the incision isn't there any more. Not bad, now I just wonder how I'll look in a bikini (LOL).

My OB said that they felt around while they were cleaning me up and the fibroid didn't feel too significant. He said I can get an ultrasound in six months to see how its doing. My partner asked him how soon we could start trying again (oh brother) and my doc said 8-9 months post-partum as ultrasound studies have shown that the site where the placenta had attached still showed signs of healing at 7 months post-partum.

So, while I don't think the c-section was fun, it was definately not an entirely miserable experience and all things considered I would rather have a scheduled c-section than an emergency c-section.

(I'll add more details as I recall them)

My Delivery Plans

I'm going to have my partner and sister (a doula in training, she just needs to attend more births as a doula) at the delivery. My OB did mention it was partly up to the anaesthesiologist how many people we have in the room though. I'm thinking it will work out how I'd like though.

My doctor said he would lower the drape when they are going to pull baby out if I like. He said that the baby will stay in the room with us the entire time after the delivery (provided there aren't any issues needing extra care for him). My partner isn't interested in cutting the cord he has told me.

Actually my partner is rather liking the idea that he's going to be the first one to interact much with our baby boy. He tells me he's going to take him off to the side and get to know him and name him and eventually I'll get to be introduced. I think he knows that it's not totally up to him how it goes, and we will try to offer the breast to the baby soon after delivery.

I worry that trying to figure out nursing and the new baby with too many visitors is going to be a little overwelming. I'll probably be in the hospital for a few days, but my inclination is to send out an email to friends and family ahead of time letting them know what my expectations were about visitors. I just have a feeling that with my temperment I'm going to need some room to be able to figure out how to care for my baby without additional outside pressure and expectations.

For anyone reading who is also going to have a planned cesarean, The Essential C-Section Guide is a helpful book to read as it will run you through the paces of what to expect including breastfeeding post surgery.

My partner has struggled a little with the idea that my sister and mother will be included in the delivery and post-partum period (my mom's coming for 3 weeks and she's soooo excited about her first grandchild's arrival) but for me it just feels right. After talking to him more about it, and him talking with other female friends who have children, he's come to see that having a grandmother's help is a good thing, even if they might drive you a little crazy in the meantime. For me I feel like it helps take all the pressure off of me to have extra hands to help mother our baby boy -- and hopefully it will let me rest and heal better.

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Changing the topic slightly, the doctor's office called and my test results came back great. I tested negative for Strep B, my ferritin had jumped up from 7 in November to 13, and my hematocrit was up from 31 to 35.7. The nurse said that compared to many other woman at this late stage in pregnancy my blood work looked great. Its nice to know that taking all the vitamins is helping. I just wanted to be sure that things were looking okay prior to going in for surgery next week.

Fibroids and Fertility

Some of the better links I've found which discuss fibroids and fibroid treatments impact on fertility.

GENERAL

Fibroids & Fertility

Fibroids and Younger Women

Management of Uterine Fibroids

Myomectomy: It's Role in Infertility

FIBROIDS AND MISCARRIAGE

Recurrent Miscarriage (Pregnancy Loss)

Small fibroids may increase miscarriage risk
Small uterine fibroids may increase the risk of miscarriage, according to early findings from a study by researchers at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.


MYOMECTOMY & UFE

Gynecologic Myomectomy

Long-term results of laparoscopic myomectomy: recurrence rate in comparison with abdominal myomectomy

Myomectomy
Article about endoscopic myomectomy

Myomectomy During Cesarean Section – Time To Reconsider?
A medical article looking at removing fibroids during cesarian delivery

Myomectomy: a retrospective study to examine reproductive performance before and after surgery.
Watch a web video of a myomectomy being done

Replay of: Abdominal Myomectomy-A Treatment for the Removal of Fibroids

As for the prospect of a c-section delivery, I am trying to be true to myself and at the same time true to the situation and reality. My fibroid was preventing me from getting pg and I had to have it out if I want to have babies. Having it out changed the situation for delivery and since I've gone to such extremes to "make room for baby" I should just relax about it and focus on getting pg firstmost and then getting the best surgeon I can find and get along with.

I've been feeling a lot better over the past week though energy-wise so I've started running/walking with my dog each day around 5:30 or 6pm, right before the sun goes down. It really helps clear my head and help my body shift gears from work. The furthest I can run is 2 blocks but then we walk -- my dog and I are getting more exercise though this way than just walking and she (old girl that she is at 14 1/2) is loving it. I've also been practicing my qigong and doing acupressure to help with my stagnation.

Vaginal Birth After Myomectomy -- Uterine Rupture Risks

My latest thing is trying to evaluate the risks of a vaginal birth now that I've had an incision all the way through my uterine wall. I have been advised to have a scheduled c-section by my surgeon. I've researched this topic before, and I even avoided the surgery for a long time because I knew that they would say I would have to have a c-section.

It looks like the risks are:

* up to 9% (4-9%) chance of a uterine rupture total (including
ruptures that occur prior to active labor, i.e. rupture at 28-34
weeks)

If the uterus was to rupture there is a:

* 1 in 3,300 births chance of the baby dying, and a
* 1 in 5,000 risk of hysterectomy
Is vaginal birth after cesarean risky?


Additionally:

"The risk of uterine rupture is 1 in 500 even with planned repeat
cesarean versus 1 in 10,000 with an unscarred uterus."
CIMS Alarmed by Highest US Cesarean Rate Ever

"women having planned cesareans for a subsequent birth were three
times as likely to have hysterectomies as women planning VBACs: 1 in
220 versus 1 in 625."
Is vaginal birth after cesarean risky?

"For women being induced without use of prostaglandin, the odds went
up only slightly, but when labor induction included prostaglandin,
they soared to 1 in 900 for hysterectomy and 1 in 770 for infant
death."


This in contrast to the rupture rates among VBACs with a transverse
incision:

”1 in 625 with a planned repeat cesarean,
1 in 192 with starting labor on their own,
1 in 130 with an induction of labor but without using prostaglandin
to soften the cervix first,
1 in 41 with labor inductions that included prostaglandin.”
Is vaginal birth after cesarean risky?

and

"cord prolapse, or antepartum hemorrhage) in any women giving birth,
is approximately 2.7%, or up to 30 times as high as the risk of
uterine rupture with planned vaginal birth after cesarean"
[Note that they are referring to VBAC after low transverse section
data)

So, if 9 women will have uterine rupture does that mean that the
other 91 women shouldn't be allowed to do a trial of labor?

I was looking in A guide to effective care in pregnancy and childbirth 3rd Edition (Enkin, Keirse, Neilson, Crowther, Duley, Hodnett and Hofmeyr, Oxford University Press) and found these interesting quotes:

"Maternal mortality and serious morbidity are fortunately very rare, and for this reason estimates of their frequency are imprecise. A large meta-analysis showed maternal mortality of 2.8 per 10,000 for women undergoing trials of labor, and 2.4 per 10,000 for women having an elective cesarean. Uterine dehiscence (asymptomatic separations of the uterine scar) or ruptures occur in less than 2% of trials of labor, the same proportion as is seen among women who have routine repeat cesareans. Most of these are asymptomatic and of no clinical importance."

"The rate of maternal death associated with cesarean section (approximately 4 per 10,000 births) is four times that associated with all types of vaginal birth (1 per 10,000 births). The maternal death rate associated with elective repeat cesarean section (around 2 per 10,000 births), although lower than that associated with cesarean sections overall, is still twice the rate associated with all vaginal deliveries, and nearly four times the mortality rate associated with normal vaginal birth (0.5 per 10,000 births)."

"...the probability of requiring an emergency cesarean section for acute other conditions (fetal distress, cord prolapse, or antepartum hemorrhage) in any women giving birth, is approximately 2.7%, or up to 30 times as high as the risk of uterine rupture with planned vaginal birth after cesarean"[Note that they are referring to VBAC after low transverse section data)

"Hospitals whose capabilities are so limited that they cannot deal promptly with problems associated with a planned vaginal birth after cesarean are also incapable of dealing appropriately with other obstetrical emergencies."

It is strange how the ob/gyn field reacts towards childbirth and its complications, even though it is a natural process. When you contrast what I've learned through my experience with fibroids, that many women who have finished having children are advised to have hysterectomy for these benign tumors though they can be safely excised via abdominal or laparoscopic surgery. In contrast, a doctor specializing in the colon, when presented with a patient with a polyp in the colon, does not proceed to remove the colon, s/he would remove the polyp alone. And then I was looking for stats on complication rates after other surgeries and saw this, perhaps not the best comparison but still:


"The Duke analysis found that the mortality rates for heart failure patients was 11.7 percent, compared to 6.6 percent for coronary artery disease patients and 6.2 percent for patients without heart disease. In terms of readmission rates after surgery, heart failure patients had a 20 percent rate, compared to 14.2 percent for coronary artery disease patients and 11 percent for patients with out heart disease."
from: Heart failure patients at increased risk during non-cardiac surgery


So the death rate from having non-heart related surgeries on patients with heart disease is really high. Much higher than the risks associated with childbirth, and much higher than the risks of uterine rupture. It just boggles the mind how different these specialties are when they approach patient care.

"Early findings suggest that a the greatest influence on a woman's decision to attempt a VBAC trial of labor is her personal philosophy of birth (normal life event vs potential disaster) and the attitude of her healthcare provider surrounding VBAC trial of labor. The final findings will be presented at the 2004 ACNM Annual Meeting in New Orleans, Louisiana."Vaginal Birth After Cesarean (ACNM 48th Meeting)

While uterine rupture is slightly more likely with planned vaginal birth (5 per 1,000 versus 2 per 1,000 for a repeat cesarean), newborn outcomes do not differ. With appropriate care, 7 out of 10 women or more laboring after a cesarean will birth vaginally.
CIMS Alarmed by Highest US Cesarean Rate Ever

"Leaving aside that cesareans impose other risks that balance out the risk of uterine rupture during a VBAC, commentators on the Washington State data deemed the 1 in 3,300 chance of losing the baby during a spontaneous VBAC labor was sufficient to mandate planned repeat cesarean. The odds of amniocentesis precipitating a miscarriage fall somewhere between 1 in 200 and 1 in 400, more than ten times the risk of the baby dying from a VBAC-related uterine rupture. Yet obstetricians aren’t lobbying for an end to amniocentesis on the grounds that it is too hazardous."Is vaginal birth after cesarean risky?


"Even the way in which the Washington study data was presented was biased against VBAC. The article stated that spontaneous VBAC labor increased the risk of rupture 3.3-fold compared with repeat cesarean, a statistic quoted in media articles. This sounds alarming, but the absolute difference was four women per thousand, a miniscule number when you consider that two-thirds of women experiencing uterine rupture will suffer nothing worse than the cesarean they would have had in any case had they not decided on a VBAC."
Is vaginal birth after cesarean risky?


Increased risks are associated with:

• Gestational age of at least 42 weeks also raised the risk for a negative outcome.
  Results of the National Study of Vaginal Birth After Cesarean in Birth Centers (scroll down a bit)
  
  
• “Awaiting spontaneous labor beyond 40 weeks of gestation decreases the likelihood of successful VBAC but does not increase the risk of uterine rupture”
  Practice Guidelines: ACOG Releases Guidelines for Vaginal Birth After Cesarean Delivery
  
  
• “Approximately 50% of uterine ruptures that occur may be catastrophic, with significant rates of morbidity and mortality to both the fetus and mother.”
  Uterine Rupture and Vaginal Birth After Cesarean Section: An Historical Enigma
  
  
• “One study showed that women who had a previous vaginal delivery prior to attempting a trial of labor had a rupture
  rate that was one fifth the rate of women who did not have a previous vaginal delivery.”
  Uterine Rupture and Vaginal Birth After Cesarean Section: An Historical Enigma
  
  
• “Prior classical uterine incision is associated with a rate of uterine rupture of up to 12%.”
  Minimizing Obstetrical Risk: Vaginal Birth After Cesarean Section
  
  
• “Interdelivery interval: If the prior delivery was less than 18 months, there was a 3-fold increased incidence of uterine rupture compared with women having a longer interdelivery interval” and
  “Maternal age: Women over 30 years of age were 3 times more likely to experience a uterine rupture than those under 30 years”
  “Number of prior cesarean births: Women with 2 or more prior cesareans had a 3-fold increase in the incidence of uterine rupture (1.7%) compared with women with only 1 prior cesarean (0.6%).[9]”
  “Single-layer vs double-layer uterine closure: The 1-layer closure technique is associated with a 4-fold increase in the incidence of uterine rupture (3.1%) compared with prior 2-layer uterine closure (0.5%).”

Vaginal Birth After Cesarean (ACNM 48th Meeting)


"Pain at the scar does not reliably indicate uterine rupture. Caesareans for this reason often find intact scars.
Changes in contraction strength do not reliably indicate rupture, so routine intrauterine pressure catheters have little value.
Manual exploration of the scar results in both false positives and false negatives. False positives lead to unnecessary surgery. Wound openings without other symptoms probably need no repair anyway. The exploration (which is painful) may introduce infection and could potentially convert a wound opening into a rupture."http://www.bambi-bangkok.org/magazine/2000/b2_aug00.htm

"The majority of dehiscences after lower segment transverse incisions are 'silent', 'incomplete', or incidentally discovered at the time of repeat cesarean section. The potential dangers of uterine rupture are related to the rapid 'explosive' rupture, which is most likely, to be seen in women who have a classical midline scar. Rupture of the scar after a classical cesarean section is not only more serious than rupture of a lower segment scar, it is also more likely to occur. Rupture may occur suddenly during the course of pregnancy, prior to labor, and before a repeat cesarean section can be scheduled. A review of the literature at a time when classical cesarean section was still common, showed a 2.2% rate of uterine rupture with previous classical cesarean sections and a rate of 0.5% with previous lower segment cesarean sections. That is, the scar of the classical operation was more than four times more likely to rupture in a subsequent pregnancy than that of the lower segment incision.

Unfortunately, even in the older literature, there are very few data on the risk of uterine rupture of a vertical scar in the lower segment. One 1966 study reported an incidence of rupture of 2.2% in classical incision scars, 1.3% in vertical incision lower segment scars, and 0.7% in transverse incision lower segment scars. The distinction between the risk of rupture of vertical and transverse lower segment scars may be related to extension of the vertical incision from the lower segment into the upper segment of the uterus.

The uncertain denominators in the reported series make it difficult to quantify the risk of rupture with a previous classical or vertical incision lower segment scar. It is clear, however, that the risk that rupture may occur, that it may occur prior to the onset of labor, and that it may have serious sequelae, are considerably greater with such scars than with transverse incision lower segment scars. It would seem reasonable that women who have had a hysterotomy, a vertical uterine incision, or an 'inverted T incision, be treated in subsequent pregnancies in the same manner as women who have had a classical cesarean section, and that trial of labor, if permitted at all, should be carried out with great caution, and with acute awareness of the increased risks that are likely to exist."
Labor and birth after previous cesarean, 4.4 Type of previous incision in the uterus

The length of time from your c-section to your current due date is another issue. If less than 12 to 24 months will have passed since your c-section, your health-care provider will question whether there has been sufficient time for healing. Is the scar site strong enough to go through labor without separating? The highest risk for uterine rupture during labor is during the first year after a cesarean delivery. The risk of uterine rupture decreases over the following years. Other factors, such as surgical technique, suture material used, or infection may be involved as well. This issue is controversial and is being studied.
Midwife Elizabeth Stein on Vaginal Birth After Cesarean

“A woman's risk of uterine rupture increases with:

• Each additional uterine surgical scar. While a uterine rupture occurs in up to 8 per 1,000 women with one scar, up to 37 per 1,000 women with two scars develop a rupture.
  
• The use of medication to start (induce) labor. Use of misoprostol (Cytotec) or oxytocin (Pitocin) to induce labor has been linked to increased risk of uterine rupture during VBAC. In a recent study, uterine rupture occurred in:
  * 24.5 per 1,000 women who were induced with misoprostol.
  * 7.7 per 1,000 women who were induced with oxytocin.
  * 5.2 per 1,000 women who had a spontaneous labor.
  * 1.6 per 1,000 women who had a repeat cesarean without labor.
  However, careful use of oxytocin to aid (augment) a slow labor has rarely been linked to uterine rupture.4, 3
  
• Any uterine scar tissue that reaches above the lower, thinner part of the uterus. About 40 to 90 per 1,000 women with a vertical incision develop a rupture.

”
Rupture of the uterine scar and VBAC


“The type and location of the previous uterine incision helps to determine the risk of uterine rupture. The incidence of uterine rupture is 0.2% to 1.5% in a woman who attempts labour after a transverse lower-uterine-segment incision 14,16,18,27,45 and 1% to 1.6% after a vertical incision in the lower uterine segment. 46-49 The risk is 4% to 9% with a classical or “T” incision; and for this reason, a TOL after Caesarean is contraindicated in these situations.16,19,30 Shimonovitz et al. found the risk of uterine rupture after 0, 1, 2, and 3 VBAC deliveries to be 1.6%, 0.3%, 0.2%, and 0.35%, respectively, indicating that the risk of uterine rupture decreases after the first successful VBAC.”
SOGC Guidelines for Vaginal Birth After Previous Caesarian Birth

“Four studies have examined the relationship between the interdelivery interval and the rate of successful VBAC and uterine rupture.102-105 Esposito et al. examined 23 cases of uterine rupture and compared them to 127 controls.102 There was an increased risk of uterine rupture with a short interpregnancy interval (<6 months between pregnancies; <15 months between deliveries) compared to controls (17.4% vs. 4.7%, P=0.05).102 Shipp et al. reviewed 311 women who underwent a TOL after Caesarean less than 18 months after their Caesarean section and compared them to 2098 women who underwent a TOL after Caesarean after more than 18 months.103 The shorter interval was associated with a 3-fold increase in the risk of uterine rupture (2.25% vs. 1.05%: OR, 3.0; 95% CI, 1.2–7.2).103 Huang et al. reviewed 1185 women undergoing a TOL after Caesarean and noted no difference in the success of vaginal delivery in those with a shorter interval of <19 months (79% vs. 85.5%, P=0.12), but they did note a significant difference in successful
VBAC in women who underwent medical induction compared to spontaneous labour (14.3% vs. 86.1%, P<0.01).104 Their study noted no difference in the rate of uterine rupture.104 In 2002, Bujold et al. reported an observational study of 1527 women undergoing a planned TOL after Caesarean at different intervals from the index Caesarean delivery.105 The rates of uterine rupture were as follows: <12 months, 4.8%; 13 to 24 months, 2.7%; 25 to 36 months, 0.9%; and >36 months, 0.9%.105 After adjustment for such confounders as number of layers in the uterine closure, induction, oxytocin, and epidural use, the odds ratio for uterine rupture in a woman <24 months from her last delivery was 2.65 (95% CI, 1.08–6.46).105”
SOGC Guidelines for Vaginal Birth After Previous Caesarian Birth

Here's one more article about VBAC:
Predicting Cesarean Section and Uterine Rupture among Women Attempting Vaginal Birth after Prior Cesarean Section

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1201366/

So if you have the fibroid out, can you deliver the old-fashioned way?

In all that I've read the horizontal vs. vertical incision hasn't been an issue of health for the most part, it is aesthetic (someone please correct me if I'm wrong about this). It would be great if your doc could do a bikini incision, and maybe to do the ovarian surgery laparoscopically but doctors have to make that call. Since you have been experiencing serious bleeding problems it is pretty certain that your fibroid has contact with the endometrium and your incision will go the full thickness of the uterine wall.

Since I've been researching the possibilities of vaginal delivery post myo I thought I would share some of the other information I've collected related to pregnancy post myo....

With incisions into the uterine wall (especially those that go the full thickness) there is a greater risk of uterine rupture during pregnancy it seems, even if you don't go through labor, but it is a very RARE event. I will add the exception in cases of laparoscopic removal of fibroids because they often don't suture the uterus as well through that procedure -- though this is likely dependant on the size, type and position of the fibroids being removed as well as the skill of the surgeon. You should ask your doctor to try to preserve as much of the myometrium (muscular wall of the uterus) outside of the endometrium as possible and also to make sure that they are going to stitch up the uterus wall in more than one layer -- to help retain integrity of the wall and to reduce the risk of adhesions as well.

"The chance of postoperative uterine rupture increases with pregnancy; the rate reported is five percent."
http://www.uterine-fibroid-treatment.com/html/myomectomy.php3
(note this is across all types of myos - lap and abdominal)

Discuss rupture risk with myomectomy patients - Uterine Rupture in
Pregnancy
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0CYD/is_20_37/ai_93531937

Pregnancy outcome and deliveries following laparoscopic myomectomy
http://humrep.oupjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/15/4/869

Other risks in pregnancy post myo include placenta acreta and of course growth of new fibroids (boo hiss!):

"Placenta accreta is a disorder in which all or part of the placental villi are in direct contact with the myometrium and are anchored to the muscle fibers rather than to decidual cells. It is attributed to lack of decidua beneath the placenta, which allows placental villi to invade the uterine wall. Risk factors include old cesarean section scars, fibroids, prior myomectomy, and uterine malformations. Clinically, placenta accreta presents as a failure of the placenta to separate spontaneously from the uterus after the birth of the child."
From: http://www.neonatology.org/syllabus/placenta.html (scroll down for reference)

Many women undergoing laparotomy (abdominal myo surgery) will be advised against attempting labor and will be steered towards c-section due to a greater change of uterine rupture at the scar site. Here are some quotes and links you might find informative, related to VBAC (vaginal birth after cesarian, being a close cousin to delivery post myo) and pregnancy delivery post- myo.

"The type of uterine incision made at the previous cesarean section is important in evaluating suitability for a VBAC. The scar visible on the skin does not necessarily predict what type of uterine incision might be found underneath. Where in the uterus the incision was made affects its strength and integrity after healing. The upper part of the uterus is composed of a different type of tissue than the lower uterine segment and cervix. The fundus, together with the upper three-quarters of the uterus, is composed of a thick, muscular tissue that does not heal with a very durable scar, while the lower uterine segment is composed of a fibroelastic tissue that heals quite well and is more flexible and elastic when stretched after healing. Virtually any scar is weaker than the surrounding native tissue (like the old episiotomy scar that springs open during the most gentle birth). Usually the forces of labor will dilate a ripe cervix but labor will open the path of least resistance, which in a few cases will be the previous uterine incision. In addition, any incision that extends into the muscular portion of the uterus is much more vulnerable to disruption in a subsequent pregnancy and labor because of the poorer integrity of scars in the muscle. A low transverse, or low cervical, incision is the preferred uterine incision in any VBAC"
from: A VBAC Primer: Technical Issues for Midwives
http://www.midwiferytoday.com/articles/vbacprimer.asp

"Among the 21 pregnancies which resulted in live births, 8 (38%) were delivered by Caesarean Section (one case because of fetal distress, two cases because of delay in progress of labour, three cases because the uterine incision involved the whole thickness of the uterine wall, and two cases due to patient request), and the remaining 13 (62%) had vaginal delivery. There were no instances of premature labour (<37 weeks), preterm rupture of membranes, placental abruption, intrauterine growth retardation, scar rupture or post-partum haemorrhage."
from: Myomectomy: a retrospective study to examine reproductive performance before and after surgery
T.C. Li1, R. Mortimer and I.D. Cooke
http://humrep.oupjournals.org/cgi/content/full/14/7/1735

Doppler Sonographic Evaluation of the Vascularity of the Myomectomy
Authors: Alfonso Rossetti M.D., Ornella Sizzi M.D., Giuseppe Florio M.D., Giulietta Tancredi M.D., Pierluigi Paparella M.D., Salvatore Mancuso M.D.
http://www.thetrocar.net/view.asp?ID=2
(Talks in more detail about how the uterus heals and why there is a risk of rupture sometimes)

UTERINE RUPTURE AND VBAC
http://hometown.aol.com/melissaem1/myhomepage/baby.html
(VBAC stands for vaginal birth after caesarean)

Delivery Post Myo

With a myomectomy the surgeon is removing tissue from multiple layers of the uterine wall. Depending on the size of the fibroid/s there also may be extensive work removing and stopping the flow of blood to
the vascular network the fibroid has created for itself. The surgeon then has to suture all of the layers together, how they are able to do that and keep the organ intact is amazing really.

I have heard that they remove the uterus after they deliver the child via c-section, to have better access while sewing it back up. I don't know much about c-sections really but I imagine it is a much neater cut.

One doctor told me that the reason that c-sections are (somewhat) necessary post myomectomy is that the uterine contractions are really intense during labor and could potentially rupture the uterine wall (where it was weakened by surgery) during labor. He told me that I likely would have a hard time finding someone to deliver for me vaginally when the time came (I'm scheduled for my myomectomy for the beginning of October, no babies for me yet). Many woman have been able to deliver post c-section but it is a bit different post myomectomy.

Best wishes for your quick and healthy recovery.