Monday, December 12, 2005

DIM Plus for PMS? (and more about estrogen excretion)

On one of the discussion groups about healing fibroids naturally I learned about this dietary supplement called DIM Plus which was supposed to help your body rid itself of excess estrogen. Evidently some of the cancer circles were talking about it. I bought some a while back and tried it for a week or so, no side effects that I could see but since I was doing chinese herbs and trying to get pregnant and you aren't meant to take it if you are pregnant I didn't continue using it.

Well, with my breasts sore as ever for the second luteal phase in a row, I decided finally yesterday to take one capsule to see if it would help. Forget just about the fertility stuff for a minute and know that for me, feeling bad PMS symptoms mean that my body is still lined up for more fibroids -- something I really don't want. The recommended dose is 2 capsules but I took just the one, and then coincidence or not my breast pain receded. They are still sensitive and full and fibrocystic but not just aching me outright now. Was it possibly the DIM Plus?

Here's the link to the product page on the manufacturer's site:

DIM Plus by Nature's Way

Estrogen Metabolism and the Diet-Cancer Connection: Rationale for Assessing the Ratio of Urinary Hydroxylated Estrogen Metabolites (PDF)

Hormone Balance - Hormonal Health (about DIM)

Physiological Functions of Phytonutrients (PDF - info about DIM starts on p.9)

Foods for Cancer Prevention

Estrogen Dominance Syndrome

Nutritional Factors in Menstrual Pain and Premenstrual Syndrome

Liver Detoxification Pathways

Estrogen's Two-Way Street

Premenstrual Syndrome Types -- I mighta have posted this link elsewhere in this blog, but it might be helpful to you in this context so here it is.

It makes me think, why is it that many doctors don't consider things a problem until they might kill you? Why do I have to live with hormonal imbalance and cyclic breast pain for years. Pooh on them. And honestly I've tried the no caffeine, no dairy, no meat, no alcohol approaches and they didn't help me. No chocolate, well that's not really an option and my acu told me that with Spleen Qi deficiency it was a common craving. Like pica (craving and eating clay and ice and stuff) I guess but better.


Claire said...

Have you tried Vitamin E or EPA/DHA oil capsules (fish oil) for the breast pain? One or the other usually works with me. I have switched back and forth betweeen Vitamin E (mixed tocopherol) and wheat germ oil in the past, but now take a combination of 800 mg of mixed tocopherol Vit E and the EPA/DHA capsules. I haven't had any serious breast pain in a while.


Anonymous said...

Hi Ann!

It's me, Di, from BabyCenter! I've been thinking about you a lot and just wanted to say Hi! I have left the BabyCenter gang but I think you can get my e-mail address from the Yahoo site. I just wanted to chat with you. Take care of yourself!!

:) Di

agness said...


The DIM contains some "nutramins" as well as E so it is possible that might have been what helped.

What the DHA/EPA stuff you are taking? Is is just packaged that way? I've heard of it, just not looked into it at all.

Claire said...

Hi Ann,

EPA/DHA is basically fish oil. Mine is packaged that way. I get it from my chiropractor who gets if from Pure Encasulations. If you have a Pharmaca pharmacy in your area, they sell the Pure Encasulation brand. It may be more expensive, but you never have to worry about quality, because all their stuff is the best.